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December 3, 2020 at 12:01 pm #13430onlinecommunityParticipant
Welcome to a place to discuss the loneliness and isolation caused by estranged relationships.
At Griefline we receive numerous calls from those dealing with the loss of close relationships between parent and child, grandparent and child, siblings, cousins, friends and others.
It’s often a distressing and confusing situation that can go on for years, with many people moving between feelings of hurt and hope for reconciliation; anger and disappointment; frustration and acceptance.
This forum is a space to freely share your feelings, to discuss its effects on your life and to share coping strategies that have helped you along the way.
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April 19, 2025 at 9:48 am #37825VM-The Old Oak TreeParticipant
Hi Anthony,
I think what you mother said is completely true. Sometimes people do things that affect us, but are not caused by anything we have done. And you may never know what it is that has prompted them to act in such a way.
Within our Grief and Loss resources hub, we have numerous articles which can be interesting and helpful. For example, the article ‘Grief Recovery Part 1: In search of lost strengths’ can be helpful in assisting us to tap into our personal strengths. This is the link for the article https://griefline.org.au/resources/grief-recovery-part-one/.
Also, please feel free to call our caring Helpline on 1300 845 745. We are available between 8am – 8pm (AEST), 7 days per week. And please continue to engage with our Online Forum, we are here listening to you.
April 3, 2025 at 4:51 pm #37672anthonyhParticipantHi Jackie,
I wondered the same “have I done something so terribly wrong” but those around me have confirmed I haven’t.
My mother said “sometimes people make decisions that affect you that are not due to anything you have done and you could not have done differently to prevent, they just had it in their mind to do something and they did it”.
Something has happened within them for them to act that way, we just hope that something happens within them to come back to us.
Without hope you have nothing
Hope doesn’t seem like a strong basis to build upon, but it is all you have until that day.
Anthony
March 29, 2025 at 12:48 pm #37439jackieParticipantI am not too sure if I am replying to a notification from anthonyh or not, but if this is correct I wish to thank you very much, I have been wondering about why no one replied to me, your observations of your parents were of great help to me. My son has a very responsible position in his chosen career, and he has always rung me every week, regardless we were very close, even as a young person through to now as a 55 year old. I had the responsibility of bringing up my children on my own from the ages of 12 and 10 years because of my husbands death, I am a Vietnam War Widow, so your RSL experience has brought up this background. It is a different experience from a death, which is final, this problem of not speaking is very foreign to me, both with my sons, or other family members. I cannot address anything with them both (eg: my daughter in law) because I have had the difficult problem of trying to explain, via emails, texts and phone calls, but have received no feedback from either my son or daughter in law, I have used my previous experience of sadness to help me, but this latest situation of my Grand daughter caught me off guard. I tried ringing and texting and finally sent a photo of my finished artwork which She has always been interested in, but nothing. I am beginning to wonder why have I done something so terribly wrong, except explain, and justify myself in an email that could cause this. She is a young 19 year old, very sweet and has an extremely close relationship with her mother and Grandmother (who lives next door). I have never brought any hate to my replies or talk to them, but I do express myself as I think I ought to simply because we are all different and I think I deserve some respect. I am now 85 years old. I have no way of knowing what has really been the problem, has it been just this one instance? or has there been many instances I am unaware of? I am lucky I have my other son as you said, but I don’t want to create too much division between brothers, so I have left off ringing him or texting for a while, because it might be difficult for him too. Like your Mother, I now don’t cry, but when I talk to my sister who lives near me I really find it hard not to. It is in my mind morning and night, and I use some methods like meditation to help me like I did before when my husband passed away. Thanks again for replying.
March 29, 2025 at 10:47 am #37438anthonyhParticipantHi Jackie
I can only respond by my observations of my parents who are 73. They still have me and my siblings, but, like me, they have been cut off from my children.
I talk to my parents daily and at least once a week Mum cries talking about my daughters. They were very close until my separation 4.75 years ago, then total cut off 1.5 years ago.
It must be very hard for you being cut off from your granddaughter as well as your son.
They too have a few friends, but are limited it what they feel like discussing with them.
I am the same, discussing in a lot of detail with a few, minor detail with most, and little or no detail with everyone else. I feel that talking about it makes me feel like I have failed when, like you, I have done everything I thought was right by them.
Every day is hard, some harder, but I almost have to block them from my mind in order to get through the day.
I work in an RSL club, so I often walk through the memorabilia area and think of the soldiers that went to war for up to 4 years without meaningful or physical contact with their family and that makes me realise I am not alone in what I and my parents, like you, are going through.
It’s easy to say, but you just need to take each day as it comes and focus on the son you do have contact with, in the hope that one day your other son and granddaughter realise what they are doing is wrong.
I also find I think about them most when I am sitting. So I try to be on my feet as much as possible. Just little things to help you get through.
I wish you all the best and hope that they will turn a corner for you.
Anthony
March 28, 2025 at 4:14 pm #37437jackieParticipantI am new here, and also new to the problem of my Adult Son, daughter in law, and now Grand daughter cutting off any sort of communication with me, this occurred in October 2024 and still no response from 4 different approaches to ask for a response that is personal. It is aggravated by the situation I have found myself in, which is renting a property owned by my son. He is in his mid 50’s so you can imagine how old I am. I have been renting for over 11 years, and have never defaulted or never let the place go downhill, and have emailed diligently regarding any issues with Body Corp etc. I have good neighbours and some other family members here who have been helpful in supporting me in a small way. My approach to date, has been to explain any issues which required action, and at the same time trying to ask for them to consider talking to me as their Mother and not as a tenant, which was the initial reaction, through an email from them. I hope someone can guide me on this difficult path I know find myself in, which is not easy considering my age. I cannot actually believe this is happening, I do have another son, who is very supportive, but who is in a different State. I have a few friends but not enough to let them know my problems or the weight that I am carrying. thankyou
August 28, 2024 at 2:22 pm #33361VM-Serenity66ParticipantHi @eleanorr,
It sounds like such a confusing, ambiguous and painful position to be in, not knowing the reasons or being able to communicate. It sounds like it is both a living loss, because your child is still alive, and an ambiguous one, because perhaps the reasons are unclear to you.
@anthonyh makes a good point about taking the best possible care of yourself while all this is happening. You might like to have a look at the self care guide ( https://griefline.org.au/resources/east-self-care-guide/ ) in the Griefline resource hub.It is a lot of pain that you are carrying, but you don’t have to walk alone. Well done for for reaching out with your story. Please feel welcome to call the Helpline (1300 845 745 8am-8pm) to have a conversation with a compassionate volunteer if you feel like it.
August 26, 2024 at 2:49 pm #33325anthonyhParticipantHi Eleanorr.
While every situation is different, I can sympathise with your situation.
The thing you said that is the hardest is “there is no end date. This could go on for years. I feel empty and so sad”.
I am tearing up reading that line. I have not heard from, or seen, my 18 and 16 year old daughters in 11 months after they were alienated from me by their mother.
Even if you have nothing to apologise or take responsibility for – you don’t get that opportunity to do so.
Every day is hard, some days are even harder, and other days just don’t seem worth it.
I have taken all the spare time that has been created to write my
Parents life story. Now that has come to an end I am at a loss like you.As I have said to others, focus on being a stronger you – for your child, when they are ready. You don’t want to be a run down shadow of yourself when the time comes. You want to be ready on that day for them to realise what a good person you are that they have missed, not someone they don’t recognise.
I am not out of that tunnel yet, so that is all I can suggest while I am on a similar, yet different, journey to you.
Like me, pray that some day something will click with them and some sort of good normal returns.
August 26, 2024 at 12:35 pm #33324eleanorrParticipantHi, I’m going through a devastating estrangement from my adult child, who will not speak to me or voice why they have cut me off.
They have not talked about the level of contact they want, they just stopped answering the phone or answering texts, I have taken my lead from this and have not rung them again. I have sent two texts in the last 6 months, both ignored, I won’t text again because I want to respect their boundaries.
It feels like someone has died only that I have killed them. The howling grief that I feel, and the absolute helplessness because I cannot speak to them or discuss what they’re feeling; they do not want to talk.
In many of these situations the parent won’t apologise or take responsibility, but I am only too eager to do that, but they won’t speak to me.
I suppose one of the worst parts is that there is no end date. This could go on for years. I feel empty and so sad.July 31, 2024 at 4:35 pm #32080anthonyhParticipantHi Tracy
I am sorry to hear of your situation. You may see previous posts of mine above, so I won’t rehash my situation.
Are your niece and nephew of an age where you can connect with them on social media. If so hopefully you have not been blocked from them or monitored by their parents.
Unfortunately the best way you can be the best for your niece and nephew is to focus on your health and fitness to be ready when the time comes. I said this to someone else in another post.
I beat myself up every day (sometimes every hour, sometimes a number of times an hour). There is nothing you can do to change them or their thoughts, you can only try to be in the best shape possible when they come. When you are focussed on your health and fitness, do it for you but for them too.
There is not much more I can say, being in a somewhat similar, but also very different situation. I am 4 years and 1 month into 95%+ isolation and 10 months into complete isolation. It is hell, it is not my choice, like you.
Just be ready
AnthonyJuly 30, 2024 at 4:15 pm #32017tracylynnParticipantHello,
I’m not sure how active this chat is, but I’m seeking support from others who might understand.
My name is Tracy, I’m 36 and I moved to Melbourne from California 7 years ago. I’ve been estranged from my family off and on since 2013. But in the last few years I’ve had almost no contact with my family because of my younger brother and his wife. I’m unmarried and don’t have children but they have two children and my brother has told my parents he wants them to have no contact with me. He had a mental breakdown and pyschotic episode in 2022. He held his family hostage at knife point and was shot by a Swat team after hostage negotiations didn’t resolve. In the aftermath he has convinced himself that I am somehow an enemy even though I’ve done nothing to initiate his disdain. I was very supportive from a distance when he was declining, but he would send me messages and voicemails telling me I was an embarrassment to the family and my parents hated me and I was a failure. I wouldn’t engage with him but I told my parents out of concern and they wouldn’t address it with him. I think there is a measure of fear on their part that if they engage he’ll pull away from them, which I do understand. When my niece was born he told our entire family to not tell me about the pregnancy and I found out on facebook I had a niece. I’m incredibly hurt that my parents have not intervened on my behalf. I know they are doing this to placate him, he’s suffered with mental issues for a long time, but now I’m isolated and missing out on important milestones with my niece and nephew and my parents are getting older. I’m sometimes afraid they’ll pass before any reconciliation. For a little bit of context, I was adopted and he is their biological son. This adds to my hurt and feelings of abandonment. My parents and brother are all very religious and right wing christian Americans and my brothers psychosis was religiously fuelled and the current political climate has definitely made tensions worse.
While I understand I may never reconcile with my brother, I’d like to be a positive influence in my niece and nephews lives. I’m very successful in my career and I’ve been privileged to be in leadership and mentorship roles for women in my industry. I would love the chance to be a role model and support system for my niece and nephew but I also don’t want to cross my family’s boundaries regardless of how unfair and hurtful they are. This has really started to weigh on me and made me feel lonely and depressed, its also affected my ability to form friendships and relationships because I’m holding onto the heaviness and grief.
I’m looking to connect with anyone who can add advice or support. I’m happy to elaborate on anything.
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